VFTB 169: Lovecraft, Crowley, and the Dark Lord

The Dark Lord by Peter LevendaTHE HORROR fiction of H.P. Lovecraft might be closer to reality than we’d like to think.

Peter Levenda, author of The Dark Lord: H.P. Lovecraft, Kenneth Grant, and the Typhonian Tradition in Magic returns to discuss the supernatural links between the Cthulu Mythos, Thelema, and the ancient alien meme. Is there a common thread that explains why the world is going to hell?

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  1. These interviews from Peter Levenda are very interesting. I haven’t had a chance to listen to the end of this one yet, so you may have addressed this and I am just unaware – but I’m having a difficult time ascertaining the worldview of Levenda himself. It doesn’t sound like he’s a Christian, but he nonetheless seems critical of these occult practices.

  2. I’ve always found Lovecraft’s stories to be good food for thought. One of the things that stand out to me when I read his stories is the connection to the Second Commandment and God’prohibition of making graven images of the likeness of any thing in heaven above, in the earth, and under the water. All of Lovecraft’s ancient ones come from these three places.

    One other thought that occurred to me while I read about the Cthulhu character (ancient one) was the similarity of his name to the Greek word for “on the whole” – katholou. From this word, katholikos meaning “universal” is derived. That may to be a nod in the direction of a one world domination and religion by an ancient evil entity.

  3. Wow! I should proofed for typo’s – my bad on the mistakes. I typed this on my phone and it looks like my sausage fingers got in the way:)

  4. I thought you did an exceptional job with these two interviews, having to walk that precarious line when speaking as a Christian to someone who is so open to and less critical of mystical experience. It’s the kind of interview Dr. Future would have labeled as “instructive potential”, even if we know that the person themselves does not as yet know Christ themself. Levenda has such an in depth knowledge about so many inter-related topics and individuals, I found it fascinating. We as bible-believing Christians who understand the times we are living in can certainly benefit from gleaning insight from the research of guys like this, if we remember to use discernment and hold everything up to the light of scripture. I found his points about the correlations between Lovecraft and Crowley particularly interesting, as this was something I heard mentioned by Bill Schnoebelen several years ago too, when I was first “tumbling down the rabbit hole” as it were… It is pertinent to us today especially since Lovecraft is becoming so popular once again in our occult-obsessed culture. Shortly after I heard about Lovecraft for the first time, I remember walking into a Barnes and Noble and lo and behold, there was a huge display at the end of an aisle, featuring all of his works. It is somewhat bizarre to me that Lovecraft was not only an atheist, but we are given little if no clues as to how he himself may have personally experienced these darker spiritual realms and beings, but it seems inescapable to conclude that somehow or another, he did exactly that. Schnoebelen seems to be so convinced of this, not simply because of his familiarity with the works of Crowley or Grant, but because Lovecraft’s books so accurately described things and places that he himself had experienced during his own time in the occult…

  5. Thank you for your kind words. Peter is a good man and an excellent researcher whose information is invaluable.

    After listening back to the program while driving the other day, though, I decided to redo my concluding remarks. I don’t think I did a good enough job explaining why I thought Peter’s book and the interview were important. Since we want the archives to remain online for years, I’d like a better summary for future listeners. I should have that done tonight.

  6. If you view history from the long lenses of history you will find empires come and go. I think American evangelicals are using a distorted View of bible prophecy to come to grips with the end of American influence.

    When america has been left in shatters there will be no rapture and the east will be the super power.

    The Antichrist will never appear and Christ will once again be a no show.

    China will be the new super power so start learning manderain

    Suck it up and god will not save Ask the Jews in world in war 2, no help grom the rapture for the chosen people

    No supernatural help . just you and your perpardness for the rise of Asia….now were the third world country

    Hard time ahead….

    1. Walter,

      No where in the Bible does it say:
      1) The end of America signifies the beginning of the End times, it’s just SOME, keyword there is SOME, Christians interpret it to say this.
      2) Have you noticed that the world is gradually moving towards a global government versus individual national governments. Several world leaders and politicians can be found quoting this. While you think China will become the new super power, many see the world evolving into a global governance with a possible central “peacekeeping” force. All of which aligns with scripture.
      3) Hitler and the “Axis of Evil” was a type of Anti-Christ. This shows a failure in knowledge about eschatology.
      4) You’re focusing too much on the rapture. There are different views on this.
      5) Whether or not Jesus returns in 10 years, 100, or 1,000 is not for us to know. We just see the signs of the season and while the Western World enjoyed some few centuries of relative peace and prosperity for Christians, it’s sort of the exception to what was set to be the norm. It’s reasonable to assume that relative peace and prosperity will not last forever. As well as the relative peace and prosperity of Western Civilization proper. Again, only SOME assume this equates to the end of the World and return of Christ.
      6) I agree, hard times ahead…but we have a blessed Hope in Jesus. Amen!

  7. Actually, John, the name Cthulhu comes from the English word chthonic, meaning “of or relating to the deities, spirits, and other beings dwelling under the earth”, as in the phrase “chthonic deities”. It is derived from the Greek word khthon, meaning earth, land, or soil. Typically this refers to the interior of the soil, ie; the underground (as in subterranean), rather than the living surface of the earth itself (as in Gaia). There is an entire Wikipedia entry for the word chthonic, which refers specifically to classical Greek mythology. So you see, your comment about Lovecraft and the connection to God’s second commandment is 100% on the mark. Nice reply.

  8. Thanks Matthew! That’s great info! I’ll definitely check out the Wikipedia entry for “chthonic”.

    God Bless,

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