THE THING about not knowing when the End of Days will come exactly is that we might be looking at the rise of the prophesied Antichrist right now without realizing it.
Terry James, general editor of RaptureReady.com, joins us to discuss his new book Antichrist Chronicles: Unveiling the Rise of Earth’s Final Fuhrer. Terry describes his approach to comparing items in the news against Bible prophecy and why Christians, rather than being fearful, should be excited about the nearness of Christ’s return.
Also: Growing pedophile scandal reaches to high levels of British government; bizarre trend of animal mutilations (examples: see here, here, and here); and Turkish government quietly building ties with Native American tribes (see here, here, here, and here).
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When this guy said that the rapture is the “great falling away”, you should have called him on that.
It seems to me, after hearing that statement, this really is a salvation issue. He actually believes that the “blessed hope” (pretribulational rapture) is:
apostasia
Feminine of the same as G647; defection from truth (properly the state), (“apostasy”): – falling away, forsake.
Apostasia means only one thing : Defection from the truth, the state of “falling away”.
I agree with him in one sense: He really has fallen away from the truth. He will actually try to change the real meaning of words to fit his position. That is very snake like. And why does he do this? So he can sell his book at any cost including his own soul.
I would like to know why you seem to agree with this guy during the interview. Why didn’t you challenge him on this nonsense? Do you agree with him that the “pre-tribulation rapture” is apostasy?
Terry is not the only one to hold that view. I have interviewed others who believe that apostasia derives from aphístēmi, “leave, depart”, hence apostasia meaning a great departure rather than a rebellion against the faith.
I disagree with that interpretation, but my purpose as an interviewer is to allow guests an opportunity to make their case. For that reason, I am generally non-confrontational. Terry is premillennial, and I agree with that. Now, postmillennial and amillennial views don’t hold water, and I can make a good case that postmillennialism, in particular, has led to a dangerous eschatology (Dominionism). I am more likely to dispute those views.
The word Apostasia has never, and will never, mean leaving a place to go to another place. Pre-tribbers are the only ones who try to change the actual meaning of words to support their position. And for what? Book sales! Money!
So now these so called men of God have equated the meaning of apostasy with the word pre-trib rapture.
Pre-tribulational rapture = apostasy.
Although I disagree with the twisted meaning that pte-tribbers have placed on the above equation, I do agree with the actual meaning of the above equation.
You, being a pre-tribber should be alarmed at such unethical behavior being paraded as scholarship. These men have no shame and fit 2 Peter 2:1-3 perfectly. Privately bringing in heresies and with made up words sell you their so called message from God.
2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2Pe 2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
2Pe 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
I have had the opportunity to meet and talk with Terry James in person on several occasions. I can say with some certainty that Terry is not twisting anything for the sake of writing a book. Thanks for your opinion.
Not twisting anything?
So you agree that Pre-trib rapture = apostasy?
And he isn’t trying to sell his book?
You implied that he is deliberately mistranslating something specifically to make a fast buck. I take exception to that characterization.
Wow. How could you think I’m implying anything.
I am not implying, I am stating as clearly as I can possibly be:
Apostasy is not and will never be “going from on place to another”. Apostasy IS CLEARLY DEFECTION FROM THE TRUTH. And that is the ONLY definition that word has. If Paul wanted to use another word with a different meaning, I’m pretty sure he would have.
No implication here. Pre-trib rapture = Apostasy. Apparently that’s yours and “many others” position. (wow)
Who am I talking to here? A jehovah witness? They handle translating words just like you guys.
Are you interested in truth or just making up words to defend your position?
Truth. Which, I will point out, does not involve putting words in the mouths of others.
What’s really amusing about this exchange is that I received another email today from someone concerned that I was way too friendly with a recent guest who has written a couple books defending the pre-wrath rapture.
Your defense of this guy is amazing.
He clearly is making claims that ARE NOT TRUE. Some Christian.
He is doing so to SELL BOOKS. I guess this is the new Christian way.
The words have come out of his own mouth. If he had kept his mouth shut then none of these post would have been written. But then again it would be much harder to sell books that way.
If you guys are beyond criticism and every one has to shake their heads in agreement no matter how bizarre a statement is then you have devolved into a cult just like the Jehovah’s Witnesses.
This guy is in it for the money and Peter warned us of guys just like him.
We are most certainly not beyond criticism. However, your disagreement over the interpretation of that particular word–and I repeat that I agree with your interpretation–is not, in my view, sufficient justification to classify Terry James as a moneygrubbing heretic.
It is not a matter of personal interpretation.
The word “Apostasy” means what it means no matter what you want it to mean.
IT IS A MATTER OF TELLING THE TRUTH OR LYING!
Otherwise, I can make out that the Messiah was never crucified because I can make the words mean anything I want to. Using your approach, I can turn the scriptures completely on it head. And that is heresy. It is hard for me to believe that you cannot see this.
Money Grubbing? Let me ask you this: Did he not write a book, get it published and put it out for sale? Why did he do this? Would he have done these thing if he could not make money at it? If God gave him this message, why is he selling it? If God has not given him this message, why should I buy it?
These verses should be on you memory list:
(But then again, who really knows what any of this really means because anyone can make any word mean what ever they want to. Especially if your a “Christian” author who supports my pre-trib view and lets me interview them on my show)
2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2Pe 2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
2Pe 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you
Thanks for your opinion, Mark. Merry Christmas.